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(if that was what she was doing) And why did she do it so slowly? Keeping the source of these character names in mind, if you re-watch Prisoners you definitely pick up on some thematic subtext involving religion. I imagine it would have taken some time to make the connection to Hollys husband, if it was ever possible to do so. So while Grace may seem like a simple name, its not. Hi, Chirs. Really insightful. These snake-handlers believe that God will reward their faith by making them immune to snake venom And yet their son dies of cancer. Suspect Arrested in Holly Jones Murder. Excellent review, I enjoyed reading the things I understood, as well as the details I missed out on. Occupation: Executive director, YWCA of Asheville. Theres one thing not mentioned that I cant shrug off. With his English language debut, Villeneuve created a story layered with suspense, thrill, and excitement. Have seen the movie three times and never put that together. This would explain why Alex was not able to drive the van. This is the father of Alex or Bob Taylor. We see many crosses. He says later says I just wanted to playand he never came.. I've been taking it for four or five years. There is a scene at the end of the film when Loki saves the little girl and the culprit shoots him, injuring him, then his blood flow into his eye. Plus, excellent point that they wouldnt just jump to Oh! He needs someone like Loki to be there at the right place and time! She heads to where she is hiding Anna and plans to kill her and taunt Keller by throwing her dead body into the hole with him. She tells him that her and her husband have been waging a war on God and shows Keller where she hid Anna. Within hours of her disappearance, police launch a massive search and issue an "Amber Alert," a. Him being so a-type with all that stuff means he has his daughter carry that whistle, and its the whistle that he uses at the end to signal Loki. In Latin, Dubris meant waters. And the long-dead Mr. Jones with the still-alive Keller Dover. When I watched I assumed that its contents were responsible for the heavy cognitive impairment that resulted in the state of the children upon their recovery at the hospital in addition to the mental trauma they suffered, and in the older victims contributed to a lifetime effect of mental vacancy and unresponsiveness seen in Alex. As well as confusion about who they really whereid also venture to guess that abuse was also a big part of the experience as you also mentionedso a confused prison of the mind. Meanwhile, Bob appears as a new suspect in the case. Im not sure about that detail. Joel Cox, the editor, felt very strongly about it. That idea of the maze goes beyond the characters to the structure of the story. Keller keeps Alex in a box thats similar to a confessional box. Which seems wrong. Mark Bridger, the former abattoir worker jailed for the sexually motivated murder of five-year-old April Jones, has been attacked in prison. The dead body discovered in the priests house just so happens to have on a maze necklace. We expect psychos to have weird obsessions like mazes. Thats Bob Taylor, one of the many children Holly and her husband had abducted. Im also a bit confused about it. Rather than face the sobering realization that she may have left the protection of her family entirely on her husbands shoulders ( according to the screenplay, she drank wine and was tipsy at the Thanksgiving get-together, but he just drank milk), she would rather sleep because she loves her children and husband deeply and gladly serves what he prepares in the more safe and secure world that he is trying to create for themso its complicated. Martin Luther No text message will ever replace the first kiss. So, maybe after recalling what Annas mother said, he might be able to link that to the sound of the whistle at Hollys house and try to find Keller. Their sonstill a childdies, causing them tremendous grief. In-roads arent always necessary, as many artists will use more obvious devices. Holly could have been in the van. Really appreciate the comment. Even without dogs, in all the time spent around the aunts house no one noticed there were tracks behind an old supposedly non-functioning car? No one ever says out loud, THAT WAS HER HUSBAND! They could have. There are two more layers that make Prisoners an even deeper kind of cinematic dive. Thanks, Warren! In the characters of Taylor & Alex, I agree with your accurate explanations that they are unable to speak & frozen by cognitive dissonance & being unable to speak of something as cosmicaly horrific as being abducted & what follows. To put it another way, not only are they unable to speak, but they speak in a completely different language. This, to me is where the whistle provides significant symbolism. Right now, still leaning to it being Hollys deceased kid. Its a huge part of the religionlikea cornerstone of Christian theology. One is thematic, the other iswellfor lack of a better word, pretentious. The soul. The justification given by Keller Snr. They move the car. How do we make sense of the bad that happens in the world? Perhaps another theme of the movie is communication. Holly Jones Community Partnership & Outreach Coordinator at North Carolina Department of Justice Asheville, North Carolina, United States 3K followers 500+ connections Join to connect North. These repeating elements, and a few others, add up. Keller having Alex captive. Its a silly, basic example but the opening of The Lion King is the rising sun. This is done in order to have Prisoners become a narrative maze. Thanks. Debord and Van Christopher Havis were arrested in . It put tape on my mouth. But in the moments before she speaks, we see Joys memory of escaping, the flashes of being in the house, on the ground, someone leaving the room, the book of mazes they had to complete, running away. Thats really interesting. A character whose first scene is talking about Zodiac signs. Im only 13 minutes in right now, but it is interesting! And the movie deals a lot with the circle of life, the dawning of a new age, new beginnings, etc. But how in the world would a jury ever find this guy guilty of anything when he saves two kids, finds/stops the biggest kidnapping ring in the country, after the police basically screwed up bad. Also isnt the name Keller, too close to killer? The simplest answer is just Theyre in shock and that makes memory difficult. Because its actually something the girls had, how else would it get there? Ive got something to add: The use of the maze not not only serves as a representation of the cognitive dissonance of those abused or references the form of the information as it is laid out; it is also a cyclical device to show the nature of violence (as Kassovitz said, la Haine attire la Haine, or hate breeds hate). Theres an FBI book about a serial abductor who was obsessed with mazes. I was confused when Alex said that he was waiting for a man to come back and he never did. They said specifically that the DNA and dental records came back with no match. So you imagine theyd be wearing gloves when they went out again. So hes doing what he should do and giving her a chance to surrender. So, Loki had been investigating the house that the RV was parked in front of and he found out it was once the home of a couple whose son, Barry Coyler, went missing. She had been jailed for trying to post 10.4g of heroin back to Australia in 2000 and pleaded guilty and sentenced to 31 years in jail in 2003. Damn, its such a good movie. My questions is- the only reason Loki is at the fathers house is because hes investigating level 3 sex offenders. He draws mazes on walls. High intelligenceGunmanship On the character names, I took Keller to be a variation of killer because he hunted, owned a handgun, and was prepared to use extreme violence to protect his family. For example, he doesnt say a word when introduced to Joys mother and she hands him photographs of her daughter. Sat, 21 Jun 2003. Everyone describes Alex as pretty internal and passive, but I wonder if (in his own traumatized and child-like way) he is trying to break out of the maze! And we have a character named Loki. Imitates kidnapping children. I also think that Loki foreshadowing his abuse and imprisonment and the boys school that the father ran is another situation that contributes to the prisoners idea. Others will be so invested in the first watching that this goes right over their headwhich is intentional on the movies part. Staring at suspect: Just because Loki has no unsolved cases doesnt mean everything he does is perfect. Largest Database of Taylor County Mugshots. LONG VERSION: Holly and her husband were religious zealots until their young son died of cancer. The book would lack meaning because it lacked any and all context. Alex says In the maze, and Bob simply draws it. And I also found this thread by Chris by chance. Police Chief Julian Fantino told a news conference that Michael Briere, 35, has been charged with first-degree murder. . Like his sister, Jones has studied Chinese as well. Buddy Holly was a singer songwriter from Lubbock Texas who died after a short 18 month career. I read a few explanations after watching the movie and this was the best and most cohesive one! To the point where it becomes undeniable that one theme of Us is the cultural state of America. I am very much amazed with the way you see things about the movie and the way you tell them.Just wanted to say thank you. Alex/Barry's caretaker It was the loss of the whistle that initiated the trauma & subsequently a type of release or redemption for previous victims (Alex, Taylor) And if course, the end of the movie, is Kellers only chance of survival, hope. So we have two very Christian characters in Keller and Grace who are dependent on Loki, a character symbolizing non-Christian religions. The girls went to Annas home to find her whistle. We know its coming from Keller Dover, trapped underground. So he went to speak with Alexs mom (Barrys mom). That was still the day of Joys escape, maybe only a few hours later. It made writing the piece very cathartic. trying to mimic where the pit is in Hollys yard (where Holly puts Keller and Keller finds the whistle). Alex, nostalgic about his own childhood, tries to play with the girls in the RV. He needs grace and so does Lokihe relies heavy on his ability to observe and pay attention to details. Huntley, a former school caretaker killed schoolgirls Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman in 2002 after they went missing from a family BBQ. The disappearance of Holly Jones Holly left home at 6:00 PM while it was still daylight, but as the darkness grew, her parents, Maria Jones and George Stonehouse, became concerned. The pair began kidnapping children to turn the parents into 'demons' as they called it, forcing them to lose their mind and faith like they did. But, yeah, seems to be one of those suspension of disbelief things that has become implicit to the whole artistic form. In the Bible the snake is definitely associated with temptation. I love it that youre so active in the comments and engaging with readers, it encourages me (and hopefully other readers) to revisit movies with new perspectives in mind and discuss further. Details. and immediately all the doors were opened, and every one's bands were loosed. Same with Loki. In Norse mythology, Lokis a big deal. I must say, I stumbled on to your site because of Prisoners but I really like what youre doing here as a whole! Just one quick question, why the hunting scene at the beginning? It was probably a promotional piece to go with the book because it doesnt look homemade. Sit in a roadway: I dont think he necessarily minded Keller seeing him. Blaming God for not saving him, they "waged a war with God" and sought to make others feel their pain. Does no one in Hollywood understand these simple things or are they such standard props that we are supposed to accept them knowing full well how ludicrous they are? And they may not have had anything to go on. Meaning its on the viewer to actively complete the few missing pieces of the puzzle. Reporter: Heather Hiscox, from The National, December 19 and Canada Now, December 19-23, 2003. And it never really changed. Because 26 years again, he lured Alex to play and kidnapped him. She was murdered by Michael Briere who plead guilty to first degree murder and got life in prison with no parole for 25years. To find an inmate, please enter the name OR the ID number, and then click the SEARCH button. Birch was also interesting as a name because birch trees are thought to be resilient, bending but not breaking. Ephemeral, spiritual things that operate on a metaphysical level. I think theres maybe also more to be found in how Keller is a doomsday prepper and the way that relates to the idea of judgement day, but I havent watched the movie with that in mind yet. The characters are great. Blowing a whistle in order to be heard, and thus saved from dying in the hole, is the equivalent of being saved by the bell from being buried alive. She was portrayed by Melissa Leo, who also playedSally in Oblivion. Alex suffered so hes kind of relishing in causing someone else to hurt. Yell from a distance to freeze: So you can say you said it. Lokis name means: prison, to break, to end, fire, which is also an interesting connection with he movie. Alex is taken into custody, but is quickly released due to his IQ being the same as a ten year old. So maybe in the end Loki does save Keller because Keller keeps blowing the whistle. He is not the all-knowing, all powerful saviour. The main story of Prisoners is the kidnapping of two young girls. I think this movie is getting a second life on Netflix, and I just watched it. Loki doesnt have a last name, but we know the meaning of his first name. In other mythologies, it varies. Its Hollys husband, and hes wearing the same maze necklace as the mysterious body from the basement. I thought that Alex and Bob had kidnapped the girls and Bob had left Alex to take the fall. And what do you know, at the end of the movie, Kellers imprisoned by Holly Jones, Alexs aunt. When he discovers the door to the basement behind the fridge, there is no staircase (the hole under the car also has no ladder) yet he quickly drops down to investigate and finds the body, 3. He was the guy with boyish good. Without your amazing, insight ful comments I would never have got any of it at all. Ends up bringing them home. Hes a red herring that creates doubt about Alex. At first, the maze might seem like nothing more than the ravings of a mad man, put into the script to add to the mystery and tension. Then you will see that what Im saying is absolutely true. And lastly, we get flashbacks to her time with Gyllenhaal that reading the book triggers. But also pagan and other spiritual iconography and references. If that was the case, Alexs They didnt cry until I left them wouldnt be meaningful or even logical. . 1409 Greenbrier Street Charleston, WV 25311 (304) 558-2036 Contact Us | Site Map | Staff Directory So its unlikely she suddenly appeared and seized the girls. Pearl, MS 39208. 127 South Second Street 919-989-5040 . But isnt it also highly unlikely that Taylor managed to buy clothes which looked exactly like the items worn by the girls? (Though it is mentioned it was a small accident, and that Alex was merely afraid of them.) Brilliant article, enjoyed every word of it. What makes Loki go there specifically? A maze without an exit. So Alex was originally Barry. Thats an interesting point about the zodiac signs! The last shot of the movie is Loki, at night, hearing a faint whistle. Chris, what do you think or D.s explanation regarding Alex waiting in the RV and crashing into the trees: Alex said that he was waiting for a man to come back and he never did. Especially in a building that has so many issues. Detective Loki goes to see Alex's aunt, Holly Jones (Melissa Leo), who raised him with his uncle after his parents died when he was six. He could be Hollys husband, thats true. To play Holly Jones,Melissa Leowore a grey wig and a foam rubber posterior prepared by Costume DesignerRene Aprilin order to "ground" her character. Can you explain the girls flashback when she sees Keller? Its a solid theory. And the girl had been drugged. And a criminal to boot. The little girls are not the same (one clings to her mother for dear life and the other is stoic)? In the largest mass commutation in US history, at least . That would explain why Alex/Barry and especially Bob Taylor were unable to put together their memories and what it meantmaybe making them feel responsible and guilty. But he was released in 1995 after serving less than three years of his sentence. Lights: Buildings usually have power broken into sections. Leo also requested the props assistants to avoid cleaning her glasses after each day's shooting. What if deep down he DOES want her to go to jail! If that is what youre thinking, high-five! This is a genius piece of movie analysis! But also the idea of the maze itself and of trauma, this infinite thing. As Villeneuve says, the trees are linked with the idea of necessary violence If you look at that in the sense that trees are chopped down to build homes, there is a sense that this violence against nature is necessary to provide shelter and comfort. Were purposefully left to figure it out on our own. The highly anticipated conclusion to the Stolen Heir duology by #1 New York Times bestselling author Holly Black. She had been jailed for trying to post 10.4g of heroin back to . That they represent Holly, right, as a tempter. I didnt find any particularly bad the way you did. But how the movie explores religion and puts Christianity in conversation with other religions/spiritualities is pretty incredible. Because Joy and Anna play on the RV, Alex keys in on them. It requires the work of both men to save the girls. People need people and people need grace. You might think thats the end of it. Alex spends most nights sleeping in the RV and does not have many things. Please also note the professors I have been working with at the end of this video. What if he was like the sex offender priest, who thought no one would believe him if he spoke out, so the priest thought that only HE could stop Hollys husband the way that he did! By visiting his former home, he must remember a time before he was entrapped! She was portrayed by Melissa Leo, who also played Sally in Oblivion . An in-road is a purposeful element that the writer/director includes to clue the viewer in on thematic subtext or plot mysteries.

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